America, we have a problem - from our own backyards to Afghanistan. Join me, Keith Michaels, along with Russ Brown and Bennett McCoy as we tackle how the nation's leadership handles both the domestic and foreign affairs, spiced with some hearty laughs about our backyard follies. Trust us, you will find our home improvement anecdotes are as entertaining as they are relatable.
First up, we're calling it as we see it - the Biden administration's Afghanistan handling has been less than stellar. The fallout from the pullout is heart-rending and a stark reminder of the consequences of misplaced optimism. We're tearing down the veil and taking you through 22 years of history since the 9/11 attacks and its implications on the nation. We're looking at America's declining influence and increasing internal divisions since President Bush's post 9/11 speech. But don't worry, we'll break it down - the rise of the police state, the extra-national powers, and the corporate consolidation that's shaking our democracy to its core.
And then there's the big question - Is Joe Biden really at the helm, or are there puppeteers pulling the strings? We explore this thought while shedding light on Biden's questionable foreign policy decisions stretching back to 1975. Is this the America we signed up for? More importantly, where are we heading? From our relationship with China to the state of affairs at home, this conversation needs to be had. Join us as we navigate these murky waters, offering our unfiltered views on what they mean for our nation's future.
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America, we have a problem - from our own backyards to Afghanistan. Join me, Keith Michaels, along with Russ Brown and Bennett McCoy as we tackle how the nation's leadership handles both the domestic and foreign affairs, spiced with some hearty laughs about our backyard follies. Trust us, you will find our home improvement anecdotes are as entertaining as they are relatable.
First up, we're calling it as we see it - the Biden administration's Afghanistan handling has been less than stellar. The fallout from the pullout is heart-rending and a stark reminder of the consequences of misplaced optimism. We're tearing down the veil and taking you through 22 years of history since the 9/11 attacks and its implications on the nation. We're looking at America's declining influence and increasing internal divisions since President Bush's post 9/11 speech. But don't worry, we'll break it down - the rise of the police state, the extra-national powers, and the corporate consolidation that's shaking our democracy to its core.
And then there's the big question - Is Joe Biden really at the helm, or are there puppeteers pulling the strings? We explore this thought while shedding light on Biden's questionable foreign policy decisions stretching back to 1975. Is this the America we signed up for? More importantly, where are we heading? From our relationship with China to the state of affairs at home, this conversation needs to be had. Join us as we navigate these murky waters, offering our unfiltered views on what they mean for our nation's future.
This episode is brought to you by Gavin's Gel
This episode is brought to you by, Margaret Sangers Pub and Grill
The fall of Afghanistan has been the deepest cut to the hearts and minds of not just the American citizens but also the world. The ultimate failure of the Biden administration and the chaotic exit of the United States from Afghanistan is hard to comprehend. A country the US that was once known as the world superpower, crumbled under poor decisions and false promises. Joe Biden and his administration that took over on the principles of empathy and compassion failed to fulfill his duties towards its citizens and its allies, thereby making it the ultimate betrayal. Hi, this is Keith Michaels, and this is the Nine Most Terrifying. Welcome to another exciting episode of the Nine Most Terrifying, where we delve into the most shocking government blunders that have ultimately proven to be citizens' worst nightmare. I'm your host, keith Michaels, and with me today are Russ Brown and.
Speaker 3:Bennett McCoy. We got him back, baby. Hell yeah, Bennett. Welcome back, man, it's good to have you.
Speaker 4:Hello, hello.
Speaker 3:Howdy. Yeah, man, so great to be back and we got some great stuff to talk about tonight and I am so happy to be back in the studio with you guys and to all you people out there. You know this is going to be a great episode. We think back 22 years 22 years of 9-11, and what that means to us in our country and to the people who served, the people who perished in that horrible attack, and I think we got a great episode for you guys tonight.
Speaker 1:Well, and it actually will be a two-part episode, so next week we'll have the second part to this as well. But yeah, you're exactly right, 22 years ago, when everything changed in America, you know, I mean, it's night and day from like you go to an airport in 9-10, 2001,. And then you look today and I mean it's not enjoyable to fly. The government is completely backwards and has turned on its own citizens in the name of safety and security and protection. Yeah, bennett, what are you been doing?
Speaker 1:I have been fighting with my backyard virtually all summer, all of this stuff should, and we should try to combine this in one video and put this on the Nymalist Terrifying website.
Speaker 4:Like my compilation of my shit show in the audience.
Speaker 6:Yes, all the videos he has all these videos because we had so much rain this summer, it was terrible.
Speaker 1:And the flooding in his backyard he kept on showing us.
Speaker 4:Well for the viewers out there. So what it was is. I hate my backyard. It's a pain in the ass to most. So I said, you know what, let's put a patio in part of it and get at least a third of it out.
Speaker 4:Before I did that, though, I have like a lazy river not really a lazy river, but just a rock bed where the water drains because we don't have good drainage and I spent all this time getting those rocks out, getting the dirt out over the sediments over the years, and I put all that back in and I start on this damn patio, and then it rained, and it rained and it rained, and where the patio I have a slope.
Speaker 4:I might have sloped it a little too much, but where the slope is on the patio versus where the top soil is on the other surrounding grass is about three or four inches. So every time it fucking rained I had a lot of water in there, and I'm waiting to do this patio the way I need to do it. You know you put the. You know you get the sand down and get it leveled, and every time I wanted to do it, it rained. I finally got it in and had to put a drainage pipe in kind of run through the ground to the little rock river, and then, as I was doing that, the rock river was higher where it needed to be and I thought, oh shit, now I gotta do this again. So I had to take another 20 feet of rock river, of the rock or whatever, and dig down so it had a slope and somewhere to go and now it's kind of more of like a catch basin. But long story short, it sucked, and pardon my language, but it sucked.
Speaker 1:Well, I was doing my backyard, but I didn't have as much work to do.
Speaker 4:You're the one who inspired me on this, because I saw your patio like, oh, that's pretty nice, I need to get something like that.
Speaker 1:Well, I had to raise mine up a little bit because I was getting water to drain back into the house. So, oh, what a fucking nightmare. Oh, and I still have-.
Speaker 3:And it took him what a year and a half to paint his shed.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so I feel so good.
Speaker 3:And raise his patio. I still have I got a lot of shit going on A freaking ton.
Speaker 1:I got beer to drink and yeah, small little children to take care of. And you know, you wake up on a Saturday and what's the first thing you need to do? You've got to go to Home Depot. It's like nine o'clock in the morning. Well, I mean, first thing is, like you know, getting dressed, feeding the kids, but by nine o'clock I've got to go to Home Depot, home Depot.
Speaker 3:No, I gotta get I got to get a Lowe's Okay well, home Depot is right by my house.
Speaker 1:So you go to Home Depot and while you're driving back, you're like, huh, I could really use a Bloody Mary. And so where do you go? Your car just drives straight to the Four Winds. Yeah, it's about like at 9.30,. Yes, it's open at 6 am, by the way, and so I've never been there at 6., 7, 7.30.
Speaker 3:I don't know about that.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I've ever been there at 6.
Speaker 3:No, I think you have, because we have come back from a tour where we rolled in at like five o'clock in the morning 5.30, and you stumble out of the bus and go going to the Four Winds. I think I did do that. Yeah, you did.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it was exactly 6, maybe like 6.30. Yeah, I think Bobby actually joined me on that. Yeah, he did, yeah, but anyway. So you know, your car drives itself there to get a Bloody Mary or a beer or whatnot, shot of a Jaina Claw, and you know, by 12 o'clock you're like well, I guess I got to get to work. So you know, you go back home and you spend about 30 minutes looking at stuff and you spend another 30 minutes moving a couple things and I'm done for the day.
Speaker 4:Yeah, pretty, much, pretty much yeah. I work hard on weekends, yeah, there was one moment I had, like I had heat stroke.
Speaker 3:Oh those are the words.
Speaker 4:I was like, oh, I felt sick. I had to call in sick to work tonight.
Speaker 1:Concrete work is hard man, it's freaking terrible. It's tough, it's hard work on the sun.
Speaker 4:That was the day I was digging the top slope because I had to do it by hand, so my yard has no easy access.
Speaker 1:How did your arms and chest feel after?
Speaker 4:My arms still hurt, my left bicep still hurts, like when I even look at a shovel, and I still have a metric ton of dirt in my backyard. I got to get ready.
Speaker 4:No, I don't want any metric, you know how many times I thought about calling Russ and saying, saying, hey, I got rid of a lot of it. But calling Russ up and saying, hey, look, russ, bring a trailer. I'll give you guys, I'll give you and your boys, a hundred bucks, if you guys can just bucket this crap out, because I can't. My yard does not have good access. It's a walkout basement, there's no alley and there's steps, steep steps that go down.
Speaker 4:So I can't get a wheel barrel in there. Everything I do, whether I put rock in one little thing I have to use five gallon freaking buckets.
Speaker 3:Well, dude, I understand that, because there's no access behind our house and so everything's got to go through a side gate and all that, and that's what I've been dealing with a lot.
Speaker 4:So I understand that I will never have a walkout basement again unless I have a really really good, accessible house or it's on a corner Period Wow, Because it's a pain in the butt to mow and it's a pain in the butt to get that down there. And then I got to get down to the gate and I got a lip of concrete and I got to get over the lip and then it's terrible. People are like, well, you just bring a machine and have one of those guys with the little hand skiff, the little loader that they walk behind. And then I was doing that one day on my thing. I look over at the yard, the neighbor's yard, who they have the straight level in, and there's a bunch of guys out there doing that. I was like son of a bitch. So it was.
Speaker 1:I was like, oh, it looks really nice what you did. Yeah, you did a great job, man.
Speaker 4:It looks really nice, yeah, it's, it's, it's done. I can enjoy a fire pit now. Now I've got even more.
Speaker 1:Well, you're better than me, because I just write a check less stuff to mow or pick up weeds I'm putting clover in there. I'm putting.
Speaker 4:I'm getting some micro clover and I started it and I'm going to pull up the weeds that grew over the summer because I couldn't mow, and of course it's getting to that point of the year where you don't have to anymore.
Speaker 1:And we have a lot of three weeks maintained.
Speaker 4:Anyway, that's, that's my, that's my adventure. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Russ, what do you?
Speaker 3:got coming up. Well, we just had a great show Tuesday night. Last time, friday, we performed at Cheyenne Frontier Days Park with the NADSA. It's pretty much a stock buyers convention, so these are the people that buy the stock, that perform at rodeos and stuff, and man, what a great show. We had so many comments. There was on Facebook. Actually, our Facebook connections for Cheyenne was like what the heck's going on at Frontier Park? There's a concert going on. I got a concert in my backyard and they sound freaking amazing and it was pretty cool.
Speaker 3:And then here in a couple of weeks, we had to Ogallala, nebraska, then to Carney, nebraska, which what is crazy about that? In Carney, I just talked to Kevin you remember Kevin Soto? Yep, yeah, and he posted something about Chancey Williams and I said, man, this is a Wyoming weekend in Carney, nebraska, because we got Chancey Williams on the sixth, you got us on the seventh in Carney, and then after that we traveled to Houston, texas, which, by the way, mr Michaels, you're going to be part of. Yeah, I get it, you're going to be back in the band.
Speaker 1:Baby, yeah, you got to send me the chords to that one song. Yeah, we'll send it to you, oh, ok.
Speaker 3:Kia G, kia G.
Speaker 4:You're going back full time.
Speaker 1:No, just for that weekend he's filling in. Yeah, I'm doing a fill in and then it's going to be embarrassing. Then after that I'll play the cowbell.
Speaker 3:OK, and after that weekend we go to Casper Wyoming and we're bringing a couple bands out of Nebraska. We're bringing no Drinking on Grounds, and then we're bringing Kyle Saylor and then we're going to bring them down to Cheyenne the next night at the Outlaw, and we're also going to bring in Kaitlin Ossner who's going to open up also Nice, nice. So it's going to be good, it's going to be good.
Speaker 4:The next one's going to be great. Are you guys driving down there when you said Houston, right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, driving oh well, we're taking the bus, yeah.
Speaker 4:Nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not driving it, Nope.
Speaker 4:You're going to stay in the bus though.
Speaker 1:I'm going to stay in the back somewhere and not going to watch the front.
Speaker 3:Oh no, dude you're going to jump in Nope, You're going to drive no and you're going to be like oh my God, guys, we're going to die.
Speaker 1:I'm not driving shit. No, it's not happening. All right, just a reminder make sure you give all our previous episodes a listen on your favorite podcast app Apple, spotify, iheartradio or even on our website, russ None.
Speaker 3:MostTerefinecom.
Speaker 1:We've also got some cool merch on there, so go and check it out. We haven't sold any for a while, but I haven't been really pushing it or even showing any photos, so make sure you check it out on our website shop. So today and next week, we'll be unraveling the terrible events of the Afghanistan pullout that ended in August of 2021. There are disturbing chain of events that ultimately left 13 soldiers and over 200 Afghanis murdered by a suicide bomber at the Khabal airport, and those lucky enough to survive were left maimed and injured. Additionally, thousands of US citizens and Afghan allies were abandoned after August 30th 2021. And there are so many things that led to this tragic outcome, and we're going to detail them in a two-part episode. So buckle up, let's go back, let's piece some things together about what happened and what led to this disaster. You guys ready?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm ready, man.
Speaker 1:All right. So Russ already kind of led in with about 9-11, and I think it's really important that we start with that, because that's this week. Mm-hmm. You know it was a Tuesday. Tuesday was Monday Monday.
Speaker 3:Monday.
Speaker 1:Monday was 9-11. And you know, I'll never forget it, 22 years ago, and I remember this speech, oh so much.
Speaker 6:Freedom itself was attacked this morning by a faceless coward, and freedom will be defended.
Speaker 6:I want to reassure the American people that the full resources of the federal government are working to assist local authorities, to save lives and to help the victims of these attacks.
Speaker 6:Make no mistake, the United States will hunt down and punish those responsible for these cowardly acts. I've been in regular contact with the vice president, secretary of defense, the national security team and my cabinet. We have taken all appropriate security precautions to protect the American people. Our military at home and around the world is on high alert status and we have taken the necessary security precautions to continue the functions of your government. We have been in touch with the leaders of Congress and with world leaders to assure them that we will do whatever is necessary to protect America and Americans. I ask the American people to join me in saying a thanks for all the folks who have been fighting hard to rescue our fellow citizens and to join me in saying a prayer for the victims and their families. The resolve of our great nation is being tested. Make no mistake, we will show the world that we will pass this test. God bless.
Speaker 1:His speech in itself to me was you know, he came out, he spoke, he was strong and it really I think it. I don't know, it's still to me, it still hits home. I don't know what you guys feel.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, it does, you know. So one of the things I do every year and I try to get my kids to do is on every anniversary of 9-11, you know the history channel and some of the cable news channels do you know 9-11 tributes? They do documentaries and stuff and I tell them you guys got to watch this because one of the one of the things that I've even talked about it several times if you do not understand history, you're going to be doomed to repeat it. And I told them they needed an understanding.
Speaker 3:And this speech just hits so hard and those who are not alive during this time don't understand when we had these terrorists, these people that attacked our country and killed almost 3,000 people. It's really hard to understand what our nation went through at that time. And now I'm going to tell you 9-11 was not a defining moment for the United States. It was September 12th. September 12th. I have never seen this country more united and that was ready to take on the people and the enemy who attacked us. That's when I saw this nation come together and feel and hurt and were ready to defend our freedom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, it's true, it's true. Yeah, you think about it. How many people came together? Here's one more speech. We'll play it and then we're going to move on to the Afghanistan, because I just think it's pretty much the most quintessential speech of 9-11. George W Bush's 9-11 bullhorn speech. It's pretty amazing, it's pretty powerful. Yeah, it speaks for itself.
Speaker 9:Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the bringing voice of the United States, with the good people of New York City and New Jersey and Connecticut as we mourn the loss of thousands of our citizens. I can hear you. I can hear you. The rest of the world hears you and the people and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon. The nation will hear us soon. The nation sends its love and compassion. Thank you for your hard work, Thank you for making the nation proud, and may God bless America.
Speaker 1:You know, um, yeah, it speaks for itself and it's not, unfortunately, guys, For me, it's not a nation I recognize today. No, bennett, I know you guys, I mean I hear that speech and you know, just just hearing it.
Speaker 4:You know it's been a while since I've listened to it, but in that moment, like you, feel that chill, uh when, when he says those words that the people that do this are going to hear from all of us soon, in that sense of unity and it's, it's bittersweet, because you think about where we are today and we are so divided and 2001, you felt like we were a nation that was still strong, still on the ascendancy, uh, world power.
Speaker 4:And this idea of uh, we're going to, don't F with us, we're going to. We were the United States, we were the United States. We were the United States, we were the United States, we were the United States.
Speaker 4:We were the United States oh yeah, and you look at this 22 years later and you know, coming out of out of COVID and and and all of these things, and and you know, like you can't even trust the government right now. You, you, you, you, you hear these things from agencies and the CDC and the government shutdowns and you watch the way that the law is being twisted and the rise of the police state. Some of it which has Keith said, came from some of this, some of the genesis was from this and it doesn't. It doesn't feel like that. We feel very anemic and then, at the same time, you you have, you have these, the rise of, of these, uh, extra national powers. You know the banking interests and and you know corporate corporations and, and you know these big funding institutions and the banks and black rock and, and you are Schwab, schwab.
Speaker 4:It doesn't W E F, it doesn't feel like the United States is, is is in charge anymore and it's and it's scary as hell and and I would love to have the nation go back to a September 12 without having there be, a September 11th. And hopefully someday we will, but it's it's. It's going to take a lot of growing pains to get back Right.
Speaker 1:It's going to take generations to return what we, what we had.
Speaker 4:If we survive.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's you know, history repeats itself and look at. Look at great nations that fell and why they fell. Mm hmm, they fell under their own weight, whether that had to do with social issues, not just one issue, usually multiple social issues, as well as financial and wars, and just it ultimately just collapsed on itself and, and you feel, those I wouldn't even say fraying cracks crumbling and we're all trying to hold it together while we've got, you know, a government like one that is being run right now by a geriatric dementia puppet.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, there's no way Joe Biden even knows what the hell he's doing at this point. Right, and that doesn't mean he's not responsible for everything that has occurred.
Speaker 3:Well no, he's the president of the United States and he's being run by the Obamas, the Clintons, and I'm going to call it out right now I don't care, it is the Obamas and the Clintons that are running Joe Biden. We have a figurehead, a so-called president figurehead, that is being run by outside people like the Obamas, like the Clintons, that are guiding him through his dementia-ridden administration.
Speaker 4:And those guys you just mentioned. They're not even in charge either. They're answering to places.
Speaker 1:Oh sure Sure.
Speaker 4:Larry Fink and Blackrock. They're the guys who are in charge. They have over $70 trillion in assets and yeah it's. You know 9-11, it was like the fulcrum. It was like this tipping point in history where, you know, we were at the top of the hill and we felt the power of the hill and our power and ever since then it's actually been on a decline and it's so unnerving, man.
Speaker 1:We've almost we've destroyed ourselves from within, but it all started, you know, from the attack, and so one could say that Osama bin Laden achieved what he was setting out to do. He may not have lived to see it all and whatnot, but ultimately what he did to this nation was what he set out to achieve. I mean, I think he was looking for a bigger fall, but certainly I don't think any of us saw, I don't think we saw where we would be.
Speaker 4:22 years ago. Well, we haven't been driving the car right either.
Speaker 1:No no.
Speaker 4:I mean, you know, we started. After that, six years later we had. You know, two years later we had Iraq, and then, and then we had, you know, five years after that we had. We had the, the Lehman Brothers collapse, and then the bailouts, and it has been nothing but a pile of cash that has been printed out and this government debt 37 trillion, 37 trillion, 37 trillion dollars.
Speaker 1:Keep this in mind, folks. When Obama was running for office, we were nine or seven.
Speaker 3:Nine, nine trillion.
Speaker 1:And that was outrageous. So we have almost gained 30 trillion dollars in the last 16 years and no one wants to talk about it. They just keep putting their head in the sand. You have a media that is lock arm, that is paid off, that has you know government interests running them, that's telling us everything's okay. You can't. You can't challenge this.
Speaker 3:But and what do you talk about? The American people, the average American person, you know when you're talking trillions and trillions of dollars in debt and they brush it off. But you got the average American that if they get in five, 10, 15,000 dollars in debt, it is burdensome to their lifestyle. I mean, it is hardship. But we're talking 30, some trillion dollars and they don't even blink an eye and we all have to pay it back somehow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, what's going to?
Speaker 4:happen is? Is that we're?
Speaker 1:we're going to default.
Speaker 4:We're looking at a Soviet Union style collapse.
Speaker 1:That's, that's really what's going to compare history again and we'll get into Afghanistan now. But when Russia collapsed, or when, when Russia left Afghanistan, they had reached their money end, they had to pull out. We had, we had played the game with them to basically outspend them, and they couldn't. They couldn't keep it all going and they ultimately, like you said, a financial Soviet Union, collapse. And that's what we're looking at now, as we try to police the world and just do radical spending just to take care of everyone, because everyone needs to be taken care of. Right, you deserve a new car, you deserve a house, you deserve this, you deserve that oh, you're not from here. Oh, you deserve free healthcare, and it's just, it's absurdity. I mean, it's all absurd.
Speaker 3:It's almost like we became the Oprah Winfrey of the fucking world. You get this.
Speaker 1:You get this everybody get this, and so, yeah, that you're exactly right.
Speaker 4:Before you go into Afghanistan. I you know, there's the old saying you know, right before the Soviet Union fell, about 10, 12 years before that, well, 1989, 1977, 1978. Oh, I see what you're saying they were in.
Speaker 1:Afghanistan. I see what you're saying.
Speaker 4:So they were in Afghanistan and they lost Afghanistan, the Soviet.
Speaker 1:Union did. They lost in the 80s.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and then we were in Afghanistan and then we just had our pull out. They always said Afghanistan is a place where empires go to die.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you oh yeah, it worries me, it's only been two years.
Speaker 3:Because we helped out the Afghanis, we actually helped out Osama bin Laden during the Afghan-Russian war, and that was in the 80s.
Speaker 1:Yep. I think it was like 89, that they left 1979 to 1989, I think, and here's the thing people need to be aware of.
Speaker 4:They're pushing for a war in Europe the moneyed interests and the defense contracting agencies. The only way they make money is through warfare. We are the world's largest weapons exporter and dealer and they're pushing for us to get into war into Europe, into Ukraine or some other event.
Speaker 3:Well, that's the bed is Ukraine, and here's the thing, that's where it's going to start.
Speaker 4:That's why this episode is important, folks, is because Afghanistan is this episode and this next episode is going to show you what disasters we are going to face if we adhere and abide by the current leadership, because that is not something that you want to have going into another major global conflict and there is one coming, whether it be in Europe or whether it be over Taiwan. It's coming and this is the disaster tale, and this is the warning bell on the night to say, hey look, if this is going to happen, we better have some damn better leaders in the White House and the military establishment.
Speaker 1:Absolutely All right. So let's get started Biden's history on foreign affairs, I think. To fully grasp the whole context of the Afghanistan pullout and withdrawal, I think it's important we first understand Joe Biden's history, not with just Afghanistan, but his whole foreign affairs, and so his administration's decision to withdraw the US troops in August of 2021, I would say it was, in some ways, a continuation of a long held stances with, but at the same time with, devastating consequences. There's so much more to this story with him, and so let's delve deeper into Biden's past decisions. Now I want to let some folks know I got a lot of information not all, but it kind of. Let me lay this, this, this history out from a book called Cabal, cabal, sorry, cabool, cabool. I caught Cabal, but Cabool we can call it either way but the untold story of Biden's fiasco and the American warriors who fought to the end. This is a great book.
Speaker 1:These guys brought out this book, I believe, in July, no, I think in August. They made sure they got it out right around the anniversary of the pullout and withdrawal Jerry Dunne, levy and James Hasson. One is a accomplished journalist, another one was a American soldier, decorated and so they wrote this book. It's fantastic. I've gotten through about half of it. I why we're only doing part of the show. It's a big book but we're not copying the book, but it's giving us kind of a table, a contents for for what to discuss. It's a very good framework. It really is, and these guys really did a lot of their work. They also talked to a lot of insiders that remain anonymous, and so there's a lot of things that actually happened even after the book has been published, and so we'll bring a lot of that up, probably next week. So let's get started.
Speaker 1:Biden he's been around for 50 years in in in public service. Public service. He really didn't serve very many people except his own interests. But Biden's foreign policy missteps began early in his career. So in 1975, as a South Vietnamese government was collapsing under the communist forces, biden imposed providing aid to the South Vietnamese refugees who had assisted the United States during the war.
Speaker 1:He dismissed their moral obligation to honor America's commitment to his allies, a stance that would later characterize his approach to other foreign affairs, one I could think of Afghanistan. He stayed to this during a Democrat caucus in 1975. I may be the most immoral son of a gun in this room. He said as he was, as he argued against aid to Cambodia, according to the Wilmington Morning News. I'm getting sick and tired of hearing about morality and moral obligation. There's a point where you are incapable of meeting moral obligations that exist worldwide. And when I heard that, or when I read that it totally explained Afghanistan pullout Completely, we left a thousand of not just of Afghani people that supported us, that we, that we had promised refuge, we left American citizens behind yeah, thousands. And this piece of shit he doesn't think it's, you know, it's his obligation and it really just did explain, and I wish I would have known more history about him prior to reading this book and looking more information up.
Speaker 4:You know and here's the interesting dichotomy I thought that's the right word when you think of what you just said about Biden and him not caring about Americans, thousands of Americans that have been trapped in Afghanistan and you go back to what we just listened to you about George W, from George W Bush, Like I'm going to protect Americans and we're going to and we're going to get these people. You know, it may not have happened in every case, but at least at that moment on September 12th, you felt like we're serious, you won't touch Americans.
Speaker 1:You won't fuck with us.
Speaker 4:You won't fuck with them and for a while, you know, it seemed like the world was getting that kind of message. And then you've got Joe Biden, who leaves thousands behind. You know it used to be that in ancient Rome the ancient Romans would send would send, you know, a senator to a foreign land and and or foreign king or whatnot, to do some kind of deal. And if that senator was was touched or a prominent Roman citizen was attacked, the next day the Roman legions were marching in and your little province is now part of the Roman Empire. Right Good day, and we don't do that anymore. And I and I get it because some of it's also monetary.
Speaker 4:We can't do it all the time but by God we got to get something back, because we are we are a wobbling empire.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, I mean we are. Ever since Joe Biden took office, we pretty much became the weakest nation of all the superpowers that you can call superpowers. We have become weak. We have become I don't want to say a blige into all the other countries or the superpowers like Russia and China. But we, the other countries like China, russia, iran, north Korea, has looked at us now, over the last almost three years now, as weak and they could take advantage of what we're doing, and this is what this administration has done.
Speaker 4:They have taken us so far away from who we are as a United States, a United nation, from what was September 12th, the day after it's true, it's true, and and and, and you know, I know we're going to get back on, but but part of that, though, is too, is that the leadership, the views of the leadership, as we're going to get segwayed into with with Biden's view of how we deal with foreign pullouts, whether it be Vietnam, or how we deal with other nations. When you have a weak person at the helm with Biden's concepts for how American relations are supposed to go or what our obligations to our allies and citizens are, that's when you start having the wolves go. Hey look, we don't have a dog guard in the hen house.
Speaker 1:It's true, right, that's true.
Speaker 3:We currently don't. I mean, and this pullout was he tried to take the playbook from Obama in Iraq and applied it to this, and I mean it may, the pullout may have worked, but the, as you call, the vacuum of it.
Speaker 1:Yes, we've talked about it.
Speaker 3:It was the vacuum. You know, when we pulled out of Iraq, when Obama pulled everybody out of Iraq, what happened was there was nothing established, there was no forces there to maintain what we were doing. It was just a straight pullout and what it created was a vacuum of no leadership, of no consistency, no stabilization, and this is what created ISIS. That's what happened, and Joe Biden tried to use the same playbook with Afghanistan, and now you have the Taliban, who we rushed out of Kabul. We rushed them out of there in less than a month, less than a month rushed them out of there and now, in less than a week two weeks at max they took over Kabul. Yep, and he was trying to use that same playbook and is going to create the same thing that happened in Iraq, if not worse.
Speaker 3:Trust me we are going to lose more soldiers because of this, because he tried to use that and he tried to do that, and all he wanted to do was be the president that pulled us out of the never ending war. That's what it came down to.
Speaker 1:Well, I think he has a misplaced optimism and a failed predictions. Oh yeah, and it's happened with China too. You know, biden, he had an optimism, he misplaced trust in China back in 79 as they were rising as a positive force in the world and that we should be able to trust him. And so he visited him in 1979 and he went to China and he argued that the country ascent would benefit the United States. But, as we can say, yeah, sure, we benefited from China to get that cheap TV, get those cheap shoes, alarm clocks.
Speaker 1:But if you really look at it, after about four decades the Chinese Communist Party has shown little interest in cooperating with us. I said I would say they cooperated with us a little bit in the early 2000s. You know they let us in. Oh, look, they're a democracy or a socialist democracy we kept on hearing that word constantly and they're growing and oh, they're just a wonderful place and they're changing. But you know, honestly, instead of display, instead they've just definitely have displayed hostility towards us, towards freedom and self-governance. And hell, here is Joe Biden in when he was a vice president, about China. This speaks volumes, I think. Let's see if we can get it there, sorry.
Speaker 7:Not every child or grandchild of an immigrant will reach the pinnacle of society, as Ambassador Locke has. America continues to put such possibilities within reach of all those who seek our shores. On my first visit to China, which was more than 30 years ago when I was a young United States Senator in 1979, I was with the first delegation of congressional leaders to visit China after normalization and we had several days of visits with then Vice Premier Deng Chaoping. It was a very different country then, but what was absolutely clear to me was that China was on the cusp of a remarkable transformation. Changes were just getting underway. My first introduction here in Sichuan that would begin transforming a largely agrarian society into a ninja of global economic growth and help lift hundreds of millions of people out of poverty seemed to me clear at the time. That first visit came amid a debate in the United States of America similar to the one that exists today about how to view China's emergence. Let me be clear.
Speaker 1:Let me be clear.
Speaker 7:Let me be clear.
Speaker 1:OK.
Speaker 7:I believed in 1979 and said so, and I believe now that a rising China is a positive development not only for the people of China but for the United States and the world as a whole.
Speaker 1:He is full of shit and he's absolutely wrong. Look at our relationship with China today. I hope our listeners think about this this man this was maybe eight years ago saying this on the world stage that they are, basically they are positive for us folks. Do you feel very positive about China right now? Because I don't. I don't at all, and I have not heard Joe Biden pull back those comments today.
Speaker 4:No, Now I will say this If so, back when Nixon opened up China back in the 70s the 60s 70s. The idea behind opening up China was to kind of wean off and put a divide between the Chinese communists and the Russian communists in.
Speaker 4:Soviet Union, and in 1979, there probably was still this idea that hey look, there's a belief that if we bring capitalism to these countries like China, that the energies of the free market will eventually lead to broad societal change. So I don't fault Joe Biden for believing those things in 1979. However, from the mid 90s onward, or at least the early 2000s, that entire thing has been flipped on its head. Because China was liberalizing yes, it was. It was developing yes, it was, as people were getting higher quality of life. That's positive. But something started to happen in the late 90s and in the mid-20s and the mid-2000s where those liberalizing forces that you thought might be moderating China, as witnessed in the Tiananmen Square Massacre- oh man, yeah, think about that.
Speaker 4:Didn't prove to be fruitful. And for Biden to now, looking back since then, and still believe then, as he believed in 1979, that a rising China's good is completely misguided, terrible and it's dangerous because it's not good. It might have been, but you had that one moment in history where you could have pushed it over the edge and had a revolution in China, and the United States and the Western world missed it. And now it's not good for China to continue its rise and continue its ascendancy, because the things that China is doing are the things that these globalists I got to quick question these globalist jerks Coat the globalist fucks.
Speaker 3:I will say it for you.
Speaker 4:They want to emulate, whether it be digital currency, whether it be the digital IDs or the palm printing the biometric data. That is not something that Biden should be hailing, and this is dangerous moving forward not only on a worldwide stage and how we deal with other nations, but also domestically as well.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, and I understand that because back in 2015, when I was still in the military, I went to the national security course or national, yeah, it was a national security course at Downing in Virginia and they were like we had to write a paper before we went there and say what is the most existential threat to the United States right now. And I said, and I wrote my paper on China. You know what everybody else wrote. You know I'm an E9, just an enlisted guy writing this paper. Everybody else wrote that ISIS was the biggest threat to the United States strategically, the biggest threat. And I wrote a paper on China, why they own our money, they own the strategic advantage and this, that and the other. And they were like, eh well, eh, china, eh, they brushed them off. Well, guess what?
Speaker 1:They brushed them off in 2012. Exactly, I mean, I don't hate, I hate bringing up this rhino's name, but Mitt Romney was right, exactly, that one of the most geopolitical foes in America has was Russia, and remember how he just got poo poo to wait about. But here we are, exactly, and 2022, 2023.
Speaker 3:And what did Donald Trump say? Our biggest enemy is China, china, china. And I told them that and they're like they brushed it off. I'm like, really, you guys are so focused on the here and now with ISIS. I'm like China's our biggest threat. If you want to go against anybody and better call them to the table, it better be fucking China.
Speaker 4:Well, and here's the danger with China and everyone who's listening knows this but China really isn't a communist country anymore. I mean, they have the Communist Party apparatus. China is actually more akin to the one party rule in Nazi Germany 1933, where you have this marriage of capitalism and state government controls. That's why the Nazi war machine was so efficient, because they had the scientists, they had the innovation, they had the engineers to develop their weapons of war and they had this terrible national vision for what they wanted to do on the world stage. China has that. And for Biden to continue to say a rising China is good is like saying, oh, you know that tiger over there. It's good that I keep feeding him steak, because he just gets stronger and stronger. Look at it, look how pretty his mane is, look how pretty his fur is.
Speaker 4:No stop feeding that, and that's one thing that Trump understood. You can say whatever you want about Trump folks. You can say anything about his relationships with women. You can say how hurt you were about his mean tweets or how he handled the reporters or the press.
Speaker 1:Or even how he handled even COVID.
Speaker 4:But even COVID, and those are all fair criticisms. Those are all fair criticisms but guess what? They're minor when you look at the existentialists in the United States. And Trump knew. He knew that China was only going to be curbed and stopped If we brought manufacturing back to this country, ended those foreign supply line dependencies that we had and started putting tariffs on China to take a ding out of their trade. Because he knew, and he still knows, that those things are the greatest threats, because those are what feed China.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like manipulate the currency. Yeah, that's what they've been doing for decades.
Speaker 3:And one thing I don't like to do is I don't like to quote movie quotes, but there was one from Fast and Furious that said, when Den Viesel said Vendiesel, Vendiesel, when you put your foot on the tiger's throat, the one thing you cannot do is take your foot off it. And guess what?
Speaker 1:We put and the Biden administration put a foot on the tiger's throat and they let it off or the Trump administration put the foot on the tiger's throat and the Biden administration let it off, yeah.
Speaker 1:So let's move on here. I also with Biden. Here is this 9-11 response. This one is infuriating itself and I totally forgot about this. I mean, hell, it's been 22 years. There's a lot that's been going on. So one of the things Biden's response to 9-11 terror attacks and subsequent dealings with Iran have further demonstrated his flawed judgment. In the aftermath of the attacks, he falsely claimed to have predicted them. I think also, if I'm not mistaken, the last couple of days, he said he went down to ground zero during 9-11, like right after it happened. I think. Am I wrong? That's bullshit. I think he said something like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he did and it was bullshit.
Speaker 4:Oh no, I saw him there when I was there.
Speaker 3:That's right that's right, oh did you. But no, yeah, oh, were you there.
Speaker 4:He said he went like the day after I flew out of my lurch.
Speaker 1:Yet yeah, he was saying he went there the day after and instead they have video evidence of him speaking in Congress. Yeah, and so I mean, or to the Senate, I mean, the guy is a fucking liar and he always makes up shit.
Speaker 4:Well, you know who was there. We should do an episode just based on all of.
Speaker 1:Biden's lies. Oh yeah, biden's lies. Well, you know who was there.
Speaker 4:That would be a hilarious episode.
Speaker 3:You know who was there. After the aftermath of that, Donald. Trump, yep, did you see?
Speaker 4:the video of Trump. Yeah. I did he was walking down and he's like I got 100 men there, I got 100 more behind me and I'm going down there to kind of always be so good.
Speaker 1:Oh, he's such a marketing dude. I mean, look, I am okay.
Speaker 4:But he was walking like a cowboy down that road and he's like fuck yeah.
Speaker 3:He's like don't, don't don't, don't, don't, don't, don't.
Speaker 1:People ask me, you know, on my troll Twitter account, why do you support him? Because I said God, how do you not love this man? How do you not love him?
Speaker 4:I mean, I get it he's pissed me off too, but it doesn't matter his reasons for doing it. He still had people there helping he did.
Speaker 1:He always has. How do you not love what he does? There are things that he promised and he got done, and that's something.
Speaker 3:And that's the thing you know. People don't know about Donald Trump. He just cares, he cares I think he does. He cares what happens. You know he loves this country. And remind you he used to be a Democrat. Well, he was he's a businessman, but he's a businessman. But he used to be a Democrat and then he saw what the Democrat party has been doing to this nation and he's like this is not right. And now they have flipped on him. But he speaks truth.
Speaker 5:I think he does.
Speaker 1:I mean, of course, he was a.
Speaker 3:Democrat. He cares about what happens to America Because why does he have the life that he lives, why does he have the opportunities that he had from the time that he was a kid. Growing up and getting into the real estate industry is because of America and he loves America. He understands what the people want. All right.
Speaker 1:So on this 9-11, this thing is gonna be a three hour episode.
Speaker 3:I bet oh yeah, welcome back.
Speaker 1:Welcome back, bennett. Thank you, bennett. All right, so because of that. So he also. You know he's falsely claiming all these things. He also then and this was in the. I have this in the. This is in the national review. Ooh, I hate reading the national review, but whatever. A reminder after 9-11, biden wanted to send 200 million to Iran, and I completely forgot about this. Vice President, joe Biden, they wrote this in 2015, fresh off attacking Republicans for writing an open letter to Iran, iranian regime is pushing for a one billion in new aid to Central America. So this is in 2015,. Just remind you, a reminder in a autumn of 2001, right after 9-11 attacks, joe Biden wanted to send 200 million to the Iranian regime. So here it is in quotes here At the Tuesday morning meeting with the committee staffers, biden launches into a stream of consciousness monologue Stream of consciousness monologue that's such a strange term About what his committee should be doing before he finally emits the obvious.
Speaker 1:I'm groping here. Then he hits on the idea America needs to show the Arab world that we're not bent on its destruction. Seems to me this would be a good time to send, no strings attached, a check for 200 million dollars to Iran. And Biden declared he surveys a table with he side brows how do you like that? Look on his face.
Speaker 1:The staffers sit in silence. Finally somebody ventures a response. I think they'd send it back Really. Then another aid speaks up. Delicately, the thing I would worry about is that it would almost look like a publicity stunt. Still another reminds Biden that an Iranian delegation is in Moscow that very day to discuss a 300 million dollar arms deal. Oh God, he's such a fucking moron. I mean he was mad because what this had to do with and I forgot about this remember Bush came out against certain regimes, the axis of evil. I think he called them evil, but any pinpoint in North Korea, iraq and Iran, and that's really where that was coming from. But what a moron. I mean it just goes right back into when we gave all that money to Iran during Obama's administration.
Speaker 4:He just did it last week. And we just gave another billion dollars. We got six Americans back, we gave them six Iranians back, we gave them six Iranians back that they wanted, and then we also unfreezed six billion dollars of their assets. Why did it have to be a six billion dollar deal? Why can't we just say, hey, it's six for six, boom, we're done. Why do we believe six?
Speaker 3:Because that was what the deal was. Why are we giving a deal to Iran anyway? I think that's what.
Speaker 4:Iran said. Guess what Iran said.
Speaker 1:What's that?
Speaker 4:This is how stupid we are. Well, thanks for the six billion dollars. By the way, we'll use it for whatever we want, yeah exactly Like, really, it's like I don't understand.
Speaker 1:It's John Kerry. Remember he was meeting with Iranian officials, john. Kerry. Yeah, during the Trump administration, Lurch Illegally. Yeah, he's not a representative of the United States in a sense of our government, and he's meeting with the Iranian government illegally trying to set up deals Still.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they had the money on the damn plane.
Speaker 1:Well, that was during Obama's administration, but during Trump's. There are photos of John Kerry meeting with Iranian officials in France. It happened, doesn't?
Speaker 1:that go against the Hatch Hack? Yep, it does, sure does, and nothing happened to him. But yeah, I mean, these are the type of things that he's been doing. And one thing I think that leads us off and we'll move on a little bit. He had a huge distrust of military leaders and my understanding reading that book is he consistently he had a distrust of military leaders and it's been a recurring thing throughout his whole career. He has often voiced his skepticism towards their advice and exhibited a disregard for their expertise, and, a meeting with the Joint Chiefs of Staff early in Obama's presidency, he warned the president to stand up to the military leaders, indicating a lack of respect and understanding for their role. This attitude has had a significant implication for his decision making.
Speaker 4:If I remember correctly and I don't know- Did we talk about the Cambodian, his Cambodian and Vietnam response.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we did the one thing, if I remember. I think Obama said I'd love to see you be the be me for a day.
Speaker 7:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that was his response. I don't have it here, but I think that was his response to Biden Obama.
Speaker 4:Didn't he also say don't underestimate Joe Biden's ability?
Speaker 1:to fuck things up, yeah, well, there you go.
Speaker 3:But, yeah, obama supported him being president, of course he did.
Speaker 1:he's a Democrat. Democrats support Democrats. That's what they do, and Republicans fuck over each other all the time.
Speaker 3:Well, and here's the thing, when you look at history. When you look at history, all the great leaders of the world, presidents, kings, oligarchs, whatever you wanna call them, the people who fail the most are ones who do not listen to their military leaders, their generals on the ground.
Speaker 1:They give them advice. At least understand where they're coming from. Exactly, and respect their knowledge, but I'm telling you I would not respect Austin and Miley, miley, miley. Oh, unless yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah those two.
Speaker 4:Unless it's General Miley and Austin, and then you'd be like well.
Speaker 1:Russ and we'll talk about them here.
Speaker 2:Put that as a footnote. Oh yeah, trust your military leaders.
Speaker 4:Well, and you know what, Unless it's Miley and Austin, you know where it started, honestly, world War II.
Speaker 3:When you talk about MacArthur and Patton wanting to continue on, guess what happened to them? No, they got fired Because they wanted to continue on to crush communism in World War II through China, through Korea, through.
Speaker 4:All that. Well, macarthur was ready to drop a nuke on China. Yeah, he wanted to drop an atomic bomb and say yeah, and guess what happened to him we got to push him back. They came across the.
Speaker 3:Yalu River yeah, drop it. And they were like oh no, you're fired, you're done, retire, you're done.
Speaker 4:But I will say this I think Ridgway. Was it Matthew Ridgway? Yeah, I think Ridgway, though he's the one who ended up pushing him back to the 38th parallel when the Marines were.
Speaker 3:Oh, I remember that, yeah.
Speaker 4:So Ridgway was kind of a badass.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was. Yeah, Ridgway.
Speaker 4:I think it was.
Speaker 3:Ridgway. But I mean, that's the thing. These presidents, especially Biden, if you call him a president, you don't listen. They're not listening to the people and the generals on the ground that are running the show. This is why we are failing. This is what happens when you fail, when you don't listen to the people who are giving you the advice, the strategic advice.
Speaker 1:And we're gonna get into that a little bit more, and because I think that this kind of it's tease up about really how he feels about like the Pentagon military leaders. He thinks he's the smartest man in the world. They don't know what they're doing or saying, and so this kind of leads into how we got where we are with Afghanistan today or in August of 2021. We're going to talk about Osama bin Laden. So now, during his April 14th speech in 2021 about the Afghanistan pullout, he made a statement and I think you ought to hear this about Osama bin Laden and getting him.
Speaker 7:Objective I said, among others, we'd follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell, if need be. That's exactly what we did, and we got him. It took us close to 10 years to put President Obama's commitment in the form, and that's exactly what happened. Osama bin Laden was gone. That was 10 years ago.
Speaker 1:So a couple of things about that speech are really interesting. He's still in the line and he's been still in this more and more often. The gates of hell that's a statement from John McCain, and I believe John McCain used that, maybe for Osama bin Laden, but I can't remember when my friends, my fans, but no, he said gates of hell. He used that term and Biden stole that from him, of course, as he steals everything from everyone that he likes when he likes something that they say, this is why he likes China so much.
Speaker 4:Probably Because all the intellectuals left.
Speaker 1:He takes everything else, but no, so he stole that. That's one thing. Beyond that, that's not exactly where Biden stood with Osama bin Laden, and Biden had admitted in nine years earlier at a House Democrat Party retreat in January 2012. So remember, nine years earlier from the pullout in Afghanistan, biden said that when Obama had been making a decision about whether to authorize Operation Neptune Spear, which means going after Osama bin Laden he had told the assembled advisors. We all demand a direct answer, mr President. My suggestion is don't go, but in 2015, biden had fully reconstructed, of course, his account of the events, changing his advice from don't go to go yeah of course I said go.
Speaker 1:Oh, he's such a fucking douchebag.
Speaker 3:I swear, I said go.
Speaker 1:But I mean, it doesn't surprise me guys.
Speaker 4:No, he's so resolute.
Speaker 3:Well, he's a pathological liar.
Speaker 1:Well, he's the most thin speaking president I've ever heard. There's no substance with what he's saying and it really makes sense when you look at his press secretary, then when you look at his vice president, then when you look at John Kirby, he might be the thin, thickest speaker. He's so thin. Yeah, I mean they have no substance with what they're trying to say because they aren't substance. The only substance they are is leftism.
Speaker 3:That's it.
Speaker 1:It's different, they're talking in words.
Speaker 3:All they're doing is talking in words.
Speaker 1:Yeah they don't give a shit.
Speaker 3:They're trying to confuse people, trying to make people think what they're thinking. It's just, it's weird and it's so thin and there's nothing to what that administration is saying.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and I truly believe that his foreign affairs blunders reveal huge failure. Oh, huge I understand the lessons of history and whether it be Vietnam, Afghanistan you know some have been laden Iraq, whatnot, he's repeated the mistakes of these pasts or he he continues to always be on the wrong side of history and he totally disregards those as, like you said, those are the experts, the ones that have knowledge, and he has a complete inability to really grasp those complexities.
Speaker 4:I'll be honest, though this is we talk about Biden. This actually makes Obama look somewhat okay.
Speaker 1:No, it's no, I completely agree.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I absolutely agree with you.
Speaker 3:But I don't agree. Because? Why? Because I think Obama is still running the show. I think those are the people the Obamas and the Clintons are pushing all this stuff. He is a puppet. We've said it many times he's a puppet. I guarantee you, the Obamas and the Clintons are pushing what he is saying, this guy. I'm telling you what, if I was president of the United States, I would not have people telling me what to say, what to do, what's going on.
Speaker 1:It's all scripted, but that's what he did, you know, I mean he.
Speaker 3:Exactly. But I guarantee you, it's the Obamas and the Clinton administrations that are still telling Biden, because they know they know he's decrepit, they know he don't know what he's saying I mean it's just, it's beyond pushing him, it's beyond Biden, it's just it's. Well, that's the beyond Biden, it's the. You know, if people control him, he's the puppet.
Speaker 4:There's a great YouTube and I'm going to go a little off course here.
Speaker 1:Sorry.
Speaker 4:There's a great YouTube channel. It's called Value Tainment, and I forget the guy's name. His name is something Ben David, right? I've sent you guys a couple of his videos. When you think about who controls these military decisions, we used to have, like I don't know prior to a certain time period I forget what it was like 141 different defense contractors, and then the Pentagon decided to push and allow for these contractors to consolidate into like five main defense companies. And these defense companies it used to be that you could get a shoulder fired missile for $25,000 a unit. Wow, I guess how much they're charging now 400,000. Really, because they've all come together and said, hey, look, there's only five of us, we're all making this stuff. What do you think would be a good price? Yeah, Collusion.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we'll do 400,000. So it went from $25,000 to $400,000 for the shoulder fired missiles, tow missiles or whatnot. Okay For those units, okay.
Speaker 1:You did that with anything else. Gas stations can't do that. We always talk about who's really making the decisions.
Speaker 4:You know who's really making these decisions.
Speaker 1:It is that establishment, because they're the ones that are pushing this in Ukraine. I mean, they are there, the people that are making money and getting that money are not the ones that need it. Right, the billions and billions we sent $100 billion, I think, is the final assessment right now through through various, various efforts. It's not all just money sent, it's like military equipment, some of it some type of refuge supplies, I don't know.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:But it hasn't. It's not going in the hands of the needs we know this no. People are making billions of dollars off the death of others. Well, and that's part of the Just like Afghanistan.
Speaker 3:The military industrial complex.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and this explains part of why Biden rewrites his history. I was a don't go and now, all of a sudden, I'm the go guy. So, hey guys, by the way, you know, you people out there, raytheon and Lockheed and whatever, who, who paid for some of these? You know lobbying efforts. Right, I'm one of you. I'm resolute, I'm strong, I'm tough, and this is also another reason why he rewrites his history. Now, I'm not saying those companies aren't necessary, because we national defense is not saying they're not necessary, it's just like but it's dangerous that you have a president, as Russ said, who was so easily controlled and easily swayed.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Based on those influences.
Speaker 8:And that's what I was trying to get to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Perfect, so okay, that that's what we get with Biden. So it's important to know who this guy is and I think most of our listeners and we know who he is. But I think it was really important to bring up some historical things about him, that the kind of mold his reaction to and why he did what he did with Afghanistan it really did. For me it explained a lot. It's not just because he's a loof, which I do think he is at times- yeah. I also think he's a callous piece of shit.
Speaker 6:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And he doesn't really care about people.
Speaker 3:No, he just cares about him and his family In Vietnam.
Speaker 1:Cambodia is a great example in that response with Afghanistan. I mean, they they pretty much match with each other on those pullouts and what and those withdrawals, and why he thought you know then why it wasn't important to really take care of the people that we counted on in, in, in in Vietnam, with the same thing with Afghanistan, why it's not important that we take care of those people that we counted on, that protected our soldiers. Hell, he doesn't care about our own soldiers.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he doesn't care. That's right. I mean we America has, we have a couple of black guys in our history.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:When it comes to who we support. First one happened in 1805 with the United States Marines at the, at, at and Tripoli.
Speaker 6:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Uh, there were two brothers that were uh with the Barbary pirates. One of them had been deposed and he was an ex-Salon Egypt and they were taking American sailors hostage and Thomas Jefferson sent the United States Navy over there to use our early Navy to get these to finally show these Barbary pirates you can't touch Americans and you're going to stop praying on us.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 4:And and during those naval encounters, a, a man named William Eaton and 11 or 12 US Marines went and found this, this deposed brother uh, in Egypt, and they marched 500 miles across North Africa to Durna, in Tripoli, and they took this town. Well, while they were doing it, unfortunately um, well, fortunately there were about 300 sailors that had been taken during an early conflict from the USS Philadelphia. That that, that, when, when this uh, this potentate in Tripoli, learned that his brother and the United States Marines had taken the town of Durna, he finally released them, and so we finally said, okay, our cost for war is done and we abandoned these people and William Eaton's like we, we, we made a promise to this guy and people always say, well, America's not in, the, doesn't do regime change.
Speaker 1:It's like that was that was a regime change, bullshit Right.
Speaker 4:And and we left this guy. Um, of course we won because we got, we needed to get done, but we left this guy hanging in Durna and I, and I think his brother, came back and took him out. So that was one black guy, even though it was a glorious moment for the US Marines and it was a glorious thing for the United States Navy, because even Britain was like, holy shit, look at, the US Navy's done these little. There's like they got like five or six ships and they're taking on this shit and they're doing some great things with Stephen Decatur and whatnot. Black guy number one. Black guy number two Vietnam. And then you have black guy number three, kabul in Afghanistan. And, and Joe Biden was on the wrong side of history for two of those black guys. That should scare the hell out of you folks, especially if we're going to push for war in in in Europe.
Speaker 4:And I can guarantee you for as much as Biden is is all in on the Ukraine right now. If that situation changes, all of his rah, rah, rah and not making peace while the Ukrainians had the upper hand in some areas, uh, if that does change, he's going to do the same thing there and you're going to have millions of Ukrainians, or hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, who have died because Biden had to give money to these defense contractors, to provide money for a war.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're right. So let's move into. So Joe Biden wins the election, right, but prior to that, um in Afghanistan, during um Trump's administration, obviously there were a lot, a lot of things happening in those four years. Um, you know, we, I know that they increased soldiers to go after ISIS and they pretty much they squashed ISIS. I mean, I think it was Trump's initial thought to bring them all back down to 2,500 and get them all out, but I think it was Magda, uh, mad Dog, uh, right.
Speaker 5:I can't remember.
Speaker 4:Mattis, mattis.
Speaker 1:Yeah, mad Dog Mattis right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so I think it was a little bit of a pullout and Mattis said no no, bring up 13,000.
Speaker 1:It was something like that. He put in a lot of soldiers to go after ISIS and bring him down.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, yeah, so, so, yeah. So Trump had had, so Obama had put 100,000 in the surge and then we were back down to 11,000 and Trump was getting ready to say, look, we got to get out of here. Of course Trump had a better plan for doing it. Right. There were some things and then Mattis said no, no, let's do a temporary boost to 15,000 and then later on, I think during the as we move further into these agreements they went down to about 3,500, 3,500, and then Biden's the one who said well, fuck it we're not even going to have those there.
Speaker 4:Get them back.
Speaker 1:But yeah, we'll get there. But what was funny about? I mean not funny, but so he decimated ISIS. Isis was a huge problem when, when, uh, trump came in.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Or.
Speaker 1:Trump kicked the shit out and they kicked the shit out of him. And that that was um Mattis, right? Mattis said, hey, we're going to go after him, we're going to totally completely decimate him, and they did.
Speaker 4:Trump also took out like a Russian brigade that was firing on American positions, and we wiped them out.
Speaker 1:I didn't know about that, but anyway, this is near Syria.
Speaker 4:It was. It was a big news story.
Speaker 1:So one of the things that after that whole decimation of ISIS, it was still on Trump's mind to pull out of of.
Speaker 5:Afghanistan.
Speaker 1:And that's where you'll see that him and Biden are very similar in the sense they don't want to be there. Now, how they pull out, how they withdraw, is completely different. Yeah, I think you have a Kalis person in Biden and I think you have a person in Trump that is a businessman but does have a heart and does want to listen to those, uh, that have knowledge about being a military expert but he's not going to listen.
Speaker 3:He was going to listen to his combat commanders.
Speaker 1:Exactly, but he's not going to listen. He's not going to listen to fools, and there are times he would push off people that he didn't want to listen to.
Speaker 1:There are people he should have pushed off earlier. But one of the things that they did and this was in March 2nd of 2020, uh, and this is right, obviously what about nine months prior to the election? Uh, the Trump administration and the Taliban had worked out a peace deal, because I think it was pretty obvious at this point, Afghanistan had their own issues with their government. There's a lot of corruption. People can't tell me there wasn't. It's really hard to look up how bad the corruption was, but it was very bad in Afghanistan and they were very lean and thin and they obviously couldn't. They could not do this with us just leaving, and so there was an idea to reach a peace agreement with the Taliban. Uh, and it's called the Doha agreement.
Speaker 3:The Doha agreement yeah.
Speaker 1:And March 2nd of 2020. And so here's some of the things that uh that the United States and Taliban agreed to a ceasefire, and this was in February of 2020, I'm sorry, but a ceasefire negotiators agree? Uh to a temporary reduction in violence and said that the lasting ceasefire among U? S, taliban and Afghan forces will be part of intra-Afghan uh negotiations. Withdrawal of foreign forces the United States agreed to reduce the number of troops in the country from roughly 12,000 to 8,600 within 135 days.
Speaker 1:If the Taliban follows through on its commitments, all U? S and other foreign troops will leave Afghanistan within 14 months. Keep that in mind If the Taliban follows through on its commitments. The Taliban also agreed to start talks with the Afghan government in March of 2020. Uh, throughout the negotiation process, the Taliban had resisted direct talks with the government, calling it an American puppet, but the Taliban has been more recently indicated that talks are possible Uh, so there were various things of those commitments that the Taliban had agreed to. Most notably, though, they weren't going to work with terrorist organizations, nor work like Al Qaeda, isis, nor work with nor attack uh American soldiers.
Speaker 4:They, they were even saying they were going to start kind of taking some of the ISIS, uh, al Qaeda people out that were there in Afghanistan.
Speaker 1:There are many commitments that they agreed to that they were going to follow. That was.
Speaker 1:That was the whole roadmap roadmap to, to to working, of having America leave. Alright, now for the trade off game, thank you. And it was going to be a step process. That's how it was going to work and so, ultimately, that was what happened. But you listen to the Biden administration. When they took over and when they ultimately left, oh, they completely thought oh no, the reason why we had to leave was the whole Doha agreement. We were handcuffed with that right.
Speaker 1:But what's great about this and it should be noted on August 19th 2021, even the AP had noted in their article as President Donald Trump's administration signed a peace deal with the Taliban in February 2020. He optimistically proclaimed that we think we'll be successful in the end, and his secretary of state, mike Pompeo I'm sure you have some things to say about that asserted that the administration was seizing the best opportunity for peace Sorry, something popped up Best opportunity for peace in the generation. 18 months later, joe Biden is appointed to an is appointing to the agreement signed in the Doha as he tries to deflect blame as the Taliban was overrunning Afghanistan in a blitz.
Speaker 4:But it was always a conditional agreement.
Speaker 1:Exactly right Biden was not tied to anything he said that it bound him to withdraw US troops setting a stage for the chaos and Gulf in the country. But Biden can go only so far and this is from the AP, which I can't believe it in claiming the agreement box him in had an escape clause. The US could have withdrawn from the accord if Afghan peace talks failed. They did fail, but Biden chose to stay in it, although he delayed the complete pullout from May to September. The guy lied. But it wasn't just that. Where the AP fails, you're exactly right. They had to meet all their conditions, which they didn't, which means that Doha agreement was null and void.
Speaker 4:Well, part of the problem was, as you read the book, there's a negotiator there. I think his name is Zalmay Kaldizeed, or Kaldizeed.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:They call him Zal ZAL.
Speaker 3:Zal.
Speaker 4:Zal.
Speaker 4:Zal, zal, yeah, and he was doing the negotiation with the Taliban and he was blowing smoke at both administrations saying no, no, they're adhering to it. And Pompeo bought it because Pompeo was like, yeah, we're doing these great things, you know, we're doing this Doha agreement. The Taliban are on board and at one point they released what they called the I forgot what they called the Taliban Five or whatever. There were five prisoners from the Taliban, big, big guys in the Taliban, who were at Gitmo, and they released them as part of these negotiations. And these guys were at the table making these promises.
Speaker 4:So they come from Gitmo and they're making promises oh yeah, we're gonna abide by these. We're gonna abide by these conditions. We want to attack you, we'll go against Al Qaeda. And they were at the table. And I mean, as we go into the next week's episode and or you may already know, I mean the Taliban knew that their conditions of victory were not gonna be anything to do with adherence to the treaty, it was all gonna be on the battlefield and these guys were leaders in some of these battlefield actions and now they're part of the new quote, unquote Taliban, red Afghani government and we should have never released those. And this, the Zalmeh gentleman.
Speaker 1:He misled a lot of people but Well, I mean what's really important to know about this guy? Even the American, like the CIA and others in the military, couldn't trust him. They didn't feel like they could trust him to even give him any information about our American soldiers and where we were, because they felt that he was giving the Taliban information about us. And so why they continue to use him, even under the Biden administration, is beyond me. This guy sounds dirty.
Speaker 4:And the rank and file of the military. When they were doing their intel in the country they were saying they're not abiding by this they're not abiding, of course, millie, you know.
Speaker 3:Oh, Millie, don't shit.
Speaker 4:We're like no, no, they are. Millie was all on board and everything too, and I mean, I like Mike Pompeo, but maybe it's one of those things where he was just he was doing a trust but he wasn't verifying.
Speaker 1:I just think that they were all leading down in a direction about hey, we were able to get this accomplished.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And didn't care about the end result, no more different than Iraq. Yeah, right that. Yeah, we're gonna get out of this. There's not gonna be a like, havoc and destruction, because I think that that's where Trump at least that administration understood what not to do.
Speaker 4:Biden didn't give a fucking shit but but it goes back to what Russ said. You know, if you're you have to trust what your military is telling you. Now, maybe you can't trust the leadership who were in the political circles, but when you have boots on the ground who are doing observations, going, this is not what's happening. You have to trust them. And when you don't do that, that's when you come into conflict. You know, it's like the battle of Midway. You had these mid-level naval analysts who were like the Japanese are going to Midway. If we hadn't trusted that intel and what these guys were saying, the entire course of World War II and the Pacific would have gone an entirely different route. You have to trust.
Speaker 3:The information you're getting these experts that do that Well, and that's the problem with civilians running the military they think they know better and they don't trust the advice that's coming from the military leaders. It's ego, the generals the colonels, the sergeants that are on the ground feeding the intel, feeding the information up, and they think they know better. And I think you explained it great.
Speaker 4:And, by the way, I like the idea of there being civilian leadership over the military. However, I want civilian leadership over the military that says, no, we're going to set a goal, but then ask the military and says what's the best way for us to get to that goal Exactly? And we'll do it together, not not fuck you, I'm going to do it my way, and not the other way around, where they're like fuck you, we're not going to go to that goal. Mr President, yeah.
Speaker 1:So what's really important with the Doha Agreement is that the Biden administration, since day one, since the beginning of working towards the pullout withdrawal, they've always blamed Donald Trump and his administration Even up till this year.
Speaker 1:April 7, 2023, biden administration blames Trump in part for a chaotic Afghanistan withdrawal. As a Biden administration finished two after action reviews of the chaotic August 2021 withdrawal this is in the CBS report. From Afghanistan, the White House blamed former President Donald Trump for two factors that played a major role in their transition a short timeline of the withdrawal and the state military operations when he left office. What they don't mention is what about? What about the conditions that were set that they didn't meet? So at that point, it was null and void. They knew it was null and void. They knew they weren't meeting those conditions.
Speaker 1:At that point, all of that agreement should have been thrown out and said, nope, we're not doing this, you're not meeting our conditions. Why, why, why would you just ignore that? Because it was nice that they could lean on the Doha agreement. So, while they've already signed an agreement for the pullout, it's got to be March or, I'm sorry, may 1 or whatever date it was. It was May 31 or May 1. And so at that point, it's like, well, we've got to pull out, we've already agreed to it. No, I can't remember the last time. America has always lived up to their promises, and so they're going to now live up to their promises. To who? The fucking Taliban? The very people that worked with the person and housed him and protected the person that attacked America on 9-11. Think about that.
Speaker 3:What they protected. Osama bin Laden, yes, what.
Speaker 1:And the people behind them. That's crazy. And also consider this this is where I would never even would have entered a Doha agreement with the Taliban.
Speaker 4:I just want to say this what's that? I'm really proud of you for not mentioning the role of Saudi Arabia, and all that Because the Saudis had nothing to do with that either. Oh, nothing, nothing at all.
Speaker 1:The Saudis had nothing to do with that you know what We'll have to do a whole episode, because there's new information coming out every day and they will be releasing more of that information about the Saudi role in 9-11.
Speaker 4:Ramiswamy is hot on that and he's getting hammered for it.
Speaker 1:It's going to happen, he is. He is Ramiswamy's Sam. He's going to fucking happen. We'll do it, look at.
Speaker 4:Saudi Arabia. So here is one past that.
Speaker 3:Moving past the crown jewel yeah, come on Moving past.
Speaker 1:that I do want to. So here's John Kirby. Also, this is five months ago, must have been around the same time he got into it with Newsmax reporter spars with John Kirby on Afghanistan, because they released a report basically blaming Donald Trump. Listen to this.
Speaker 5:Karim. Thank you very much, admiral. Thank you, I have two questions about this report. First question this is, jane Brosnan, about the intelligence angle. I think we can safely agree that any time the assets of the intelligence community are harnessed to an assessment of a life and death matter and the community gets that wrong and death ensues, that that qualifies as an intelligence failure. First question here is whether, since you have acknowledged, essentially without calling it as such, an intelligence failure in this case, do we know why the intelligence communities got it wrong? What was it cultural? Was it specific? Was it they?
Speaker 1:didn't get it wrong. What was the?
Speaker 5:problem with the intelligence community.
Speaker 8:They didn't get it wrong initially. We also conducted after action reviews and I'd let them speak to that. I'm not going to do that from here.
Speaker 5:Second question that was a non-answer. We need to hear you saying, and the American people hear you saying, that President Biden inherited bad policies from President Trump.
Speaker 8:No, no, no. Bad outcomes, bad conditions on the ground. That's what I said.
Speaker 5:Well, you said he reduced the force to 2,500. You're characterizing that as a bad policy.
Speaker 8:Yes, I'm characterizing that as a fact.
Speaker 5:What we hear you saying let me finish my question, please and what the American people hear you saying is President Biden inherited flawed policies from his predecessor. President Biden was deprived of the requisite transition papers he should have received from his predecessor, and President Biden was deprived of accurate information from President Ghani about his intentions. And President Biden was deprived of accurate assessments from the intelligence community. The depiction of the commander in chief that you present, or this commander in chief, is of a figure almost helpless and shaped and buffeted by individuals and forces and entities that are beyond his control. She's frozen.
Speaker 5:He had every option to increase the troop size there during this eight months he's killed. He had every option to intensify attacks on the 5,000 Taliban fighters and so on. So I just don't understand why you're willing to depict your boss the commander in chief, is so helpless in this incident.
Speaker 8:President was anything but helpless. He drove a very as I said deliberate and inclusive decision-making process. He was able to secure some extra time for us to be able to conduct withdrawal.
Speaker 8:Please Taliban let us leave a little later. As I said in my opening statement, throughout the entire withdrawal post his national security team and senior military leaders about the conditions on the ground, asking tough questions and getting answers and getting responses, and he acted on the best military judgment and the best assessments from the intelligence community as he could, as he made these decisions going forward and some of those assessments turned out to be wrong, but it wasn't for a lack of energy.
Speaker 3:Well, they were wrong.
Speaker 8:But it was interest by the president in pulsing and questioning and analyzing all the way through. And this was difficult. As I said at the very end of my opening statement, ending a war, any war, is not an easy endeavor, certainly not after 20 years.
Speaker 1:What's really important here. I want to make sure our listeners understand. The assessment wasn't originally wrong. There were two assessments. There was one saying if you pull out, all hell is gonna fucking break loose. The other assessments were oh, maybe Afghanistan can survive. Because it was the same people pulling those assessments, because they had basically asked them two sides of the assessment. Is that correct? That's where I'm reading.
Speaker 4:I believe that. So there were estimates there that OK. Well, so before I say this, let me preface this. So are we up there?
Speaker 1:Oh, shit, I forgot to press record. I'm just kidding, oh god. I was like oh shit yeah. Oh hey everyone, how you doing.
Speaker 4:But the thing about this is I mean this show, of course. I mean it's about government mess ups, yeah, and the Afghanistan the Afghanis have a role to play. However, it was our responsibility to make a proper assessment on how prepared and actually how strong that army was. When we were doing this, we were told that no, we have 100,000 Afghanis Afghanistan army that'll be able to stand on their own. Our assessment was wrong about that. It was much, much less, and we had also started to pull out the contractors who could supply the Afghani Air Force, which is basically helicopters.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 4:And some of their combat capabilities to get troops in and out of the field. And we were pulling those out and we were promising, well, we'll be able to support the withdrawal because we'll just fly planes off from a distance to do any kind of tactical bombing that we need to while we withdraw from some of these areas. And I don't recall that ever happening. I need to go further in the book. If it did, it didn't happen nearly frequently enough to put the Taliban in their place. But then, once that happens, that's when you should have said hey look, you're in violation of this and in my opinion, there should have been a temporary troop surge. You probably should have put 5,000 more in there.
Speaker 1:And say we're not fucking around.
Speaker 4:Live up to the agreement or we're done and we're just going to take over everything and you guys are going to be hunted down Well and the dumbest fucking thing about this too is that when you look at any type of planned military withdrawal planned military withdrawal where a general or an army force or a force says, look, we're going to retreat from the field you always leave a token force behind to cover that retreat.
Speaker 3:Well, it's a strategic force.
Speaker 4:Washington did that all the time during the American Revolution and it used to piss the British off, because Washington would say, look, we need to withdraw, and he would send his troops out there in the middle of the night, he'd send a couple squads or a couple hundred people out there and he'd have them light campfires and to make it look like, wow, washington's army is still there, they're in a strong position and there may be like 10 or 15 soldiers at a fire.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they're in a strong position and every day or every time Washington did that, it kept the British at bay long enough for them not to make a move, and then the British would come in the next day and they'd be like son of a bitch, so bitch. We didn't. We didn't attack because we thought they were stronger than they were.
Speaker 6:Yeah.
Speaker 4:We didn't do that. If you're going to do a withdrawal like that and you have 5,000 Taliban, you better have 5,000 US troops ready to maintain those lines until you can get them out. And it's going to be a lot safer to get them out militarily because they have the firepower to do a fighting retreat than you do and saying, ok, we'll get the military out, and then at the end of the day, we're trying to squeeze people in at the gates.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right. Well, I mean, you look at and you make great points on that, because look at, after World War II, where do we have bases? At Ramstein, simbock, where Aviano Italy, we have men Japan, we have men Korea why you have to have a military presence in those areas strategically. Look at Saudi, kuwait we still have occupation there. Why do we not have occupation in Iraq? Why do we not have occupation in Afghanistan?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I mean, are they I don't know military areas here and where it would help us outside of Afghanistan or Iraq to have military bases there? You don't have to have bases.
Speaker 3:we just got to have occupation no just occupation, just generally speaking.
Speaker 1:I'm not arguing with you not having them there, but I would say we have them there to to help move the government into the direction that needs it, to help it to go instead of being overrun by a radical group like the Taliban, where that they aren't being kept at bay. Outside of that, I mean the whole reason, like those other places like you know, like Japan, germany, whatnot, that was strategically where we are there.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah, but after every war, Sure World War II, I mean Germany, japan and all of Europe, even after Desert Storm, we have military forces in those regions. Why do we not have the military forces in Iraq? Why, that was what created the vacuum when they pulled them all out of Iraq. I mean, we spent how?
Speaker 1:many and guess what happened now?
Speaker 3:Billions we pulled out of Afghanistan and you got the Taliban. That just retook Kabul and the entire region.
Speaker 1:You're getting to the end of the book before we're even there, Russell God and I have not even read the book. Okay, so let's talk about by the way.
Speaker 4:We are here in the nine most terrifying studios and I'm watching Russ and he's sitting in his chair and he's got his arms crossed. I know he's thinking really hard. And he's like, he's slowly, like nodding off. Those medellos like Biden at a press conference.
Speaker 1:Hawaii press conference about dead families right Jesus.
Speaker 3:Christ, but then he's getting me on a subject that fires me up.
Speaker 1:Alright, so I do want to talk about this, which I think we're going to end today. I want to talk about?
Speaker 4:No, we're not far enough. We're going to do two episodes there's supposed to be three hours tonight. No, no, you promised me this, I'm a fuck you all, but not really.
Speaker 1:I apologize for my language, not really, but let's talk about how it all led up. Biden was being warned while he is being told that, look, we pull out, we leave. This is going to get really shitty and it was pretty much you know, within that book that we've been reading, he said he didn't give a fuck. He didn't give a fuck and in fact I mean it was. Everyone already felt all of his people behind him. He'd already made up his mind we're leaving, no matter what right, and so there have been multiple stories. So, right after the withdrawal and all the debacle, there was a story that came out September 2021. And that was in the Hill, and here's some of the story. President Biden ignored warnings from Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and Secretary of State Antony Blinken, who are both douchebags, but they also said they warned them on the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan, according to forthcoming book from journalists Bob Woodward and Robert Costa. They wrote a book called Peril. What's funny about that? These are the same things that are brought up in the book today. They haven't changed, If not, they've gotten worse and more information has come out. But they warned them and they said basically that Austin and Blinken pushed for a slower withdrawal In May 2023, of this year in the New York Post.
Speaker 1:President Biden's administration failed to heed a certain warning from US officials on the ground in Afghanistan prior to the President's withdrawal operation in 2021. A top House Republican says. House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Michael McCall, Republican from Texas, viewed a State Department document detailing the concerns diplomats at the US embassy in Kabul had at the time of the withdrawal. Mccall worked for months to access the document, known as a descent cable, through subpoenas and a threat of contempt charges before viewing the document himself on Tuesday. The dissenters were absolutely right about everything they said and it was a warning to the administration about what was going to happen and what they needed to do. Mccall told Punch Bowl News in an interview, adding that the dissenters deserve a medal. And then, finally, here was a third article that I found, and this one was in July of 2023 of this year. It's in the Free Beacon that the Biden administration ignored intelligence community warnings that its plan to withdraw troops from Afghanistan would prove deadly. Current and former military officials told Congress Tuesday.
Speaker 4:Thursday.
Speaker 1:Thursday. Sorry, there was very little intelligence to suggest the Biden administration's plan would work and a mountain range, a mountain range of evidence to suggest the plan would fail. Dude, I don't know what to tell you. And that was Colonel Seth Cumerich, crumrich Crumrich, that's the one that wrote this book, right, I think.
Speaker 4:So I know of it was Crumrich, yeah, I think it was Crumrich.
Speaker 1:I can be wrong, I'll look that up, but no, there it is. Guys, there's so much evidence out there that he completely ignored everything that his own staff and military experts were telling him Do not do it this way, don't pull out this way and he completely ignored it and ultimately, it led to what we know of today, what happened in August of 2021, which led to the death of 13 US soldiers, one of which was from here in Wyoming, and it's just fucking disgusting, but this is what we have been dealing with. And he completely ignored that. Bennett, I mean, I've got nothing to say.
Speaker 4:I'm just glad Russ made it back, and safely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he did make it back safely. He was sleepwalking. He was kind of sleepwalking there you were.
Speaker 4:You look like a zombie from the walking dead. You were walking out of the garage door there.
Speaker 3:I just got up out of my chair, opened the door and went out and used the facilities.
Speaker 4:You were a little wobbly.
Speaker 1:So next week, folks, thank you for tuning in. Next week, we're going to be talking about, at that point, the whole timeline, in a sense, of Biden leading into making the final decision to leave, and then all of the debacle that happened afterwards, all the failures that happened, ultimately leading to the death of Americans and innocent civilians, afghani and American civilians. I think many people were harmed and maimed for life and ultimately even left behind.
Speaker 4:I'm looking at your file here. You got like 40 articles here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's so many man, I am on it.
Speaker 4:We're not talking about them though. Well, that's why it is a two-part episode this is about all of the agreements that Biden talked about.
Speaker 1:I know that's next week the failed peace agreements.
Speaker 4:I thought next week was going to be that.
Speaker 1:We're going to talk about it because we've been on two hours.
Speaker 4:I thought next week was going to be like when the Taliban started going after the political HKA.
Speaker 1:Well, that was my hope, but you guys talked too long, maybe we should do a three-part thing, and just talk about some of the stories.
Speaker 3:Well, we're going to have to, because this is getting three hours long.
Speaker 1:You guys talked too long.
Speaker 4:It's going to be a six-hour when we're done A six-hour. Dude, I'm down Two hours here, two hours next time and then two hours. Okay, that's fine.
Speaker 1:Whatever may need to happen. I just think it's really important that we kind of break this up now. Look, Afghanistan is a tough story to swallow.
Speaker 1:It's a tough issue. I think about it every day. I know of very many people that went and served in Afghanistan. I know of one gentleman that died there and it's hard to swallow when you think about what they gave and how much Biden was so willing to give up and not even care about what everybody really gave of their heart and their life and their lives and everything what did we get from? It. What did we gain? What did we?
Speaker 4:gain.
Speaker 3:We were there for 20 years.
Speaker 4:What did we gain from Afghanistan?
Speaker 1:I think those are some of the things we can talk about on the last one, that's what the people think is like.
Speaker 3:Well, what happened over these 20 years Now? We had 20 years of freedom. We had 20 years of women and children getting education and this and that, and then all went for not.
Speaker 1:You mean in Afghanistan?
Speaker 4:Yeah, all went for fucking, not we went in there in 2001 and we were like well, the Northern Alliance is fighting the Taliban, we're going to use them to you know we put Navy SEAL units in there on the ground before we ever went in. We did the B-52 bombings and then we finally actually did the full-on invasion and we thought, well, with the Northern Alliance. People are tired of the Taliban. And here we are, 20 years later the Taliban are back in power.
Speaker 3:And actually stronger than what they were.
Speaker 4:Because we left millions of dollars of equipment there.
Speaker 1:Oh no, but if you heard Kirby, we didn't leave any American equipment there.
Speaker 3:Oh really Bullshit. He just said that the other day. Billions of dollars.
Speaker 1:I don't, he did say that, did he not? He said we left no American equipment there Bullshit.
Speaker 3:Bullshit. I saw the fucking videos Billions of dollars and you know what. Look, if you wanted to leave that equipment there, guess what Bomb it.
Speaker 1:You guys keep on talking. I'm going to find.
Speaker 5:John Kirby.
Speaker 3:They were parading that shit around?
Speaker 4:Yeah, they were driving around Kabul with it, Like, oh look, we got these Humvees and we got the body armor and the guns. And guess what, If you were going to leave them there.
Speaker 3:bomb it, Destroy it.
Speaker 4:so our enemies cannot have access to that they had guys turning on the Black Hawk helicopters sitting there. Oh yeah, oh, this is fucking great, yeah.
Speaker 1:On September 7th this was last week there was no equipment left behind by American forces. Kirby said Bullshit. In response to a question at a press briefing the equipment that people are saying the Americans left. That was equipment that was transferred well in advance of our departure to the Afghan National Security Forces. So he's saying it's not our equipment, now it's the Afghani equipment. But who fucking paid for that, john?
Speaker 4:Kirby yeah, because, because the Afghanistan, because the Afghanis were building Black Hawk helicopters and Humvees.
Speaker 1:No, shit right, and whatever military weapons you know, geez, that's what we're dealing with.
Speaker 3:The bottom line is, the Afghan withdrawal by the Biden administration was a complete clusterfuck and it cost us 13, 13 outstanding military members soldiers, sailors, airmen. It cost us, could you? And they? They were the first ones to perish in this In over 18 months. Yeah, I mean it is God bless.
Speaker 1:I call it the fall, Kabul Biden's ultimate betrayal.
Speaker 3:I mean it really is betrayal, his failure, everything. This all goes back to Joe Biden.
Speaker 4:Now I wonder, though, what what Trump would have done.
Speaker 1:You know like so those are things I think we can talk about. On the last episode of this, I think he would have dropped into the Moab on him.
Speaker 4:He would have been like because he did drop the Moab on him.
Speaker 1:He did that. He got this weapon.
Speaker 4:We're going to do it, we're going to drop it, and he dropped him on the Taliban.
Speaker 1:He did? He killed a bunch of them.
Speaker 4:I think I kind of wonder if that wasn't the Taliban going. Oh shit, this guy's serious. We will come to the peace table.
Speaker 1:No, it's true, it's a strength, you know a lot of strength. And so that's it, guys. That's the first part of the series of Afghanistan, or the fall, kabul, or Kabul.
Speaker 4:Kabul Kabul yeah.
Speaker 1:I like.
Speaker 4:Kabul, but it's not Kabul.
Speaker 1:It's Kabul.
Speaker 4:You were saying Kabul, no.
Speaker 1:Kabul. It's Kabul, kabul, kabul I like Kabul, kabul, kabul Kabul. So that's it. Make sure you check out all of our previous episodes before we do this, oh shit.
Speaker 4:How, how, how are you Gosh? How has the audience been? Because I've been gone a little while.
Speaker 1:It's the same, it's right, it's running consistent.
Speaker 4:Is it the same Okay? Yeah. Hey, so this is good They've listened to us, to enough to know because, in the absence of me being gone, if you got, because I haven't had a chance to listen to the last couple episodes have you guys been more serious and somber and I don't know.
Speaker 1:I mean, we just don't have enough to talk about without you.
Speaker 3:We don't go down enough rabbit holes. That's very true.
Speaker 1:And I'm just not going to go the three hour time anymore, I just can't do it.
Speaker 4:No, I can't either. I can't either. I only go like that, though, because I don't know.
Speaker 3:And for some reason, when you're here, I drink more beer.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's bullshit. You get drunk each time I do.
Speaker 3:I do, and it's still coherent.
Speaker 4:He has a shitting grin on his face, but it's not like a like a shitting grin like where it's like clear and smiley. It's like that little bit of like. It's kind of like his head's like slowly, like you know, when someone's really drunk and they're like trying to control their fine motor movements and they're just kind of swaying a little bit. That's, that's Russ right now. He's got this big smile. Oh, this is when we do a video.
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Speaker 4:Tell me something else you want.
Speaker 1:I don't know. We'll have to talk about that. Yeah, we'll have to do that. Yeah, we'll have a.
Speaker 4:We'll have a because now I can like, actually like, swap your faces on the things oh.
Speaker 1:I like it. I like it. Oh, let's do it. Yeah, we can work on that. So with all that being said, I hold on.
Speaker 4:I want to do a save Russ shirt. I want to do a save Russ shirt with like this picture, like having to sleep. It's like at the bottom hashtag save Russ. Yeah, I'm just terrifying.
Speaker 9:All right. Well, I want to do a save Russ shirt. We could always do that.
Speaker 3:Until next, I tell you what though? The Thor, jesus man, the Thor, and then Captain America over here. Mr Keys, that was hilarious.
Speaker 1:Man, I wish I looked like that. Yeah, no, shit Right.
Speaker 3:I was like Thor. I was like, yeah, I got the hair.
Speaker 4:The thing is, it looked like it did look like Russ has that hair. Yeah, this has got this long flowing mane of blonde hair.
Speaker 1:Oh man, it's great Good looking air. All right, until next time, make sure you drink a lot of beer and keep your powder dry.
Speaker 4:I'm going to bed now.
Speaker 2:Nine most terrifying words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help.